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By Antonella Palermo

War, the cruelty of violence, the protection of natural resources, the evils afflicting the Church, the dream for Africa: these are just a few of the topics addressed by Pope Francis in the meetings he had with Jesuits in the Democratic Republic of Congo and South Sudan, meetings that have become regular appointments on the agenda of his apostolic journeys.

The whole world is at war, will people dare to stop?

On 2 February, 82 Jesuits working in the DRC, led by the Provincial, Father Rigobert Kyungu, met with the Holy Father in Kinshasa at the Nunciature. Among them was also Jesuit Donat Bafuidinsoni, bishop of Inongo.

During the conversation, the Holy Father addressed the issue of the mission of reconciliation and justice鈥攐ne of the 鈥溾�� of the Society of Jesus. Of the DRC, the Pope said, 鈥渋t is clear that issues of conflict and factional strife are strong here. But let鈥檚 open our eyes to the world: the whole world is at war!鈥� He recalled the ongoing conflicts in Syria, Yemen, Myanmar, Latin America, and Ukraine, and asked, 鈥渨ill humanity have the courage, the strength, or even the opportunity to turn back? It goes forward, forward, forward to the abyss.鈥� The Pope said he didn鈥檛 have the answer to that question, but admitted, 鈥淚 am a bit pessimistic.鈥�

The main problem: the production of arms

鈥淭oday it really seems that the main problem is the production of weapons,鈥� the Pope said, lamenting that people continue to manufacture arms when 鈥渢here is still so much hunger in the world.鈥� He said, 鈥淚t is difficult to come back from this catastrophe. And we are not talking about atomic weapons!鈥�

However, the Pope continued, 鈥淚 still believe in a work of persuasion,鈥� adding, 鈥淲e Christians have to pray a lot: 鈥楲ord, have mercy on us!鈥欌��

Pope Francis also recalled the stories recounted by victims of violence and unimaginable cruelty, and, in remarks to the Jesuits of South Sudan, denounced modern forms of paganism, saying, "Today ours is also a pagan culture of war, where what counts is how many weapons you have."

A commitment to saving the Congo biome

Pope Francis also reflected on the environmental issues, with all their economic repercussions, with respect to the Congo river basin, the earth鈥檚 鈥渟econd green lung鈥� after the Amazon, which is threatened by deforestation, pollution, and intensive and illegal exploitation.

Asked about the possibility of a Synod on this region like the one held for the Amazon, the Pope said there would not be a Synod, because the Synod on Amazonia was 鈥渆xemplary.鈥� The four 鈥渄reams鈥� of the Synod, he said, can be applied to the banks of the Congo.

At the same time, he said, 鈥渋t would be good for the Bishops鈥� Conference to engage synodically at the local level with the same criteria, but in order to pursue a discourse more related to the reality of the country.鈥�

The Church is not a multinational company for spirituality

Speaking about the liturgies during his journey, Pope Francis expressed his appreciation for the Zairean Use鈥攖he approved, inculturated version of the Roman Rite used in some parts of the DRC鈥攃alling it 鈥渁 work of art, a liturgical and poetic masterpiece鈥� It is not as an adaptation, but a poetic, creative reality.鈥�

Calling to mind once again the image of the Church as a field hospital, the Pope denounced 鈥渁uthoritarianism鈥� as 鈥渙ne of the ugliest things in the Church 鈥� which then becomes a mirror of society wounded by worldliness and corruption.鈥�

He insisted, 鈥淭he Church is not a multinational spirituality corporation,鈥� and invited his listeners to 鈥淟ook at the saints! Heal, take care of the wounds the world experiences! Serve the people!鈥� He noted that 鈥渢he word 鈥榮erve鈥� is very Ignatian,鈥� referring to the founder of the Jesuit order, St Ignatius of Loyola.

鈥業n everything love and serve鈥� is the Ignatian motto. I want a Church of service.

Preparations for the anniversary of the Council of Nicaea

Pope Francis was also asked about preparations for the 1,700th anniversary of the first Council of Nicaea, which will occur in 2025. In response, he said that preparations are being made in union with the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, Patriarch Bartholomew to celebrate the occasion 鈥渁s brothers,鈥� and repeated his hopes for an agreement on the date of Easter.

Responding to a question on the possibility of resigning, Pope Francis said he does not think that it should become normal for popes to resign. 鈥淏enedict had the courage to do it鈥� because he felt he could not continue due to his health. 鈥淚 for the moment do not have that on my agenda,鈥� the Holy Father said, explaining, 鈥淚 believe that the Pope's ministry is ad vitam [for life]. I see no reason why it should not be so.鈥�

This also holds true for the role of Superior General of the Society, the Pope said, adding, 鈥淥n this, I am 鈥榗onservative.鈥欌��

Africa needs honest political leaders

Pope Francis also had the opportunity for an encounter with Jesuits in South Sudan, meeting in Juba on 4 February with the eleven Jesuits working in the country, as well as Father Kizito Kiyimba, Superior of the East African Province, which includes Sudan, South Sudan, Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya, and Tanzania.

The Holy Father shared his dream that 鈥淎frica must grow鈥� and not be exploited, a theme he had already raised in November during an online meeting with African students. Recalling that meeting during his talk with the Jesuits, Pope Francis said, 鈥淚 was impressed by the intelligence of these young women and men. I really liked their way of thinking.鈥�

He went on to say, 鈥淎frica needs politicians鈥� like that: people who are good, intelligent, who can help their countries grow. Above all, Africa needs 鈥減oliticians who do not allow themselves to be distorted by corruption.鈥�

The cause of Pedro Arrupe

The Pope was also given the opportunity to speak about the cause for the canonization of Father Pedro Arrupe, the former superior general of the Society of Jesus. 鈥淗is cause is moving forward,鈥� Pope Francis said, 鈥渂ecause one of the stages is already completed.鈥�

He went on to explain that the biggest obstacle at the moment has to do with Arrupe鈥檚 extensive writings. 鈥淗e wrote so much and you have to read all of it, and that slows down the process,鈥� the Pope said.

Asked how he himself prays, Pope Francis said, 鈥淐learly, I say Mass and recite the Office. Daily liturgical prayer has its own personal density.鈥� He added that he sometimes prays the Rosary, and sometimes prays while meditating on the Gospel.

鈥淔or personal prayer, I, like everyone, have to find the best way to live it day by day.鈥� He added, 鈥淚 am afraid of prayer preachers who make abstract, theoretical prayers, who talk, and talk, and talk, but with empty words.鈥� Instead, Pope Francis insisted that 鈥減rayer is always embodied,鈥� and said that 鈥渙ne has to pray immersed in reality.鈥�

SA国际传媒 staff writers contributed to this report. The full text of Pope Francis鈥� talks with the Jesuits in the Democratic Republic of Congo and in South Sudan can be found at the of Civiltà Cattolica.